Episode 72
Jackson Sullivan on Mature Desire and Self-Led Empathy
January 7th, 2026
2 hrs 22 mins 12 secs
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About this Episode
My close friend Jackson Sullivan is the creator of The Gift, and he is the talented young man who first shared belief work with me 5 years ago. We generate a rich and creamy podcast conversation in which we explore what's possible for intrinsic motivation, desire, and going beyond the hustle culture vs. self care dichotomy. We then shift into playing with the three "minerals" of empathy, questions, and advice in the context of supporting a loved one. We point to new paradigms for a liberated humanity full of unconditional love.
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